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Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

Ironback — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:15:29 -0000

Let me add some more sugar to the prison idea then;
1. It has it's own medical center.
2. Mauraders/survivors woulldn't be able to sneak up on you and your group easily.
3. You will have open spaces to stretch your legs. The "Yard".
4. If done correctly and there is a break-in. you can opt to loose a small section of your space until you mount a counter-strike.
5. As you mentioned, most live people would steer clear of the place due to negative connotations.
6. The Dead may do the same as #5. Why not? They flock to the Malls do they not? So they'd steer clear of the prisons wouldn't they?
7. Alas, while flattering to say the least, I do believe my wife would have me join the ranks of the walking dead in a heartbeat (or lack thereof) if I took you, or anybody else, up on a proposal.

Thanks for having a great web site and such lively *chuckle* banter.

v/r
Chief

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

flowersjustin — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:27:41 -0000

And yes I have. It certainly wasn't my favorite Romero film, but it's a
pretty great re-envisioning of the genre - with several interesting things
to say about social media (Not all of which I agree with).

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

flowersjustin — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:24:16 -0000

If I wasn't already committed, I'd ask you to marry me. But, in all
seriousness, that sounds like a brilliant plan - and unconventional.

When you throw in the fact that most people either wouldn't think of a
prison as a shelter or would steer clear of it because of negative
connotations that existed before the zombie uprising, I have to say that a
prison is moving to my top five places.

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

More on prisons — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:21:50 -0000

Adding your site to my favortes. Any chance have you seen Diary of the Dead yet?

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

More on prisons — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:17:53 -0000

Thanks for the quick responce,

I've already read all your zombie info here to include box stores. I've also read many of the "Survival Guides" out there on the web. The prison would have the huge #10 cans that would stay good for quite some time. It would also have it's own power (sometimes water) source as well. Not to mention fuel farm and armored vehicles. Locked cabinet has the keys you say? .12 guage at close range or fire axe is my answer.

As for zombies already there... Prisons are constructed in cell blocks. Please don't ask how I know so much about prison systems. :p The survivors could clear the undead inhabitants out one cell block at a time. Firearms can not penetrate most prison walls... but you can easily sight in and snipe through a chain link fence, which you will find inside the compound in many areas. These were put in place so that the guards would have a clear view of the prisoners and could also hear what was going on around them.

Back to the zombies already there... They will most probly be in the cells themselves still locked up. Just stay in the middle of the walkway, away from both sides and out of reach, and shoot them through the bars. Make sure you wear leather gloves, combat boots and a nice leather jacket. Biker jackets are my preference due to the fact that the snaps can by undone and the collars can be fastened around your neck for added protection before pulling that riot helmet w/ face shield on. Leather chaps would be an added safety precaution when worn over some denim jeans or a pair of BDU trousers. See? Told you I still had some of my imagination kicking around.

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

flowersjustin — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:02:20 -0000

Wow, I've got to say that that is one of the best alternative shelters I've ever heard of. You would potentially face the same "clearing out" problem that shopping center bound survivors would face: That is to say you might get to the prison and realize, after locking yourself in, that you now have to clear out an entire prison full of zombies.

But, if it was already cleared out, or if it were possible to clear it out slowly with a team of helpers - I think you're right that it could be the best zombie shelter available.

Since you're new to the site, you might also check out the follow up to this post Big Box Stores as Shelter from the Living Dead. And, if you'd like to read more you can always do a search on the site for zombies - I have a ton of posts.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

My idea for a shelter — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:51:51 -0000

Hello there,

First time to your site. I have enjoyed zombies in movies and literature since I was a small child. Back then I would run scenarioes on my mind as how to "zombie-proof" the numerouse homes we rented (military brat). I still have a bit of my imagination left from those days long ago.

I live off base these days, but I'm in uniform myself. Military bases would be one of the worst places to hole up in. But if zombies ever did truly occur I know where I would go... The nearest prison. High walls, areas can be secured from one another, #10 cans of food (big ones), weapons for the taking, and best of all... Not only are prisons hard to break out of, they're actually harder to get into!

'd like to thank you for posting your thoughts on zombies. I am going nuts here at work and feel a bit zombified myself atm.

v/r
Chief

Re: Killing your Infected Friends: When is the Best Time?

flowersjustin — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:11:04 -0000

Let me know how that goes. It's something I've always wanted to bring up at work: Do we have a Zombie Survival Contingency Plan, and what are the companies obligations to its employees.

Re: Killing your Infected Friends: When is the Best Time?

leanne heller — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:53:34 -0000

Good plan, and it applies to coworkers as well - you never know where you'll be when the zombie attacks strike. I'll bring this up tomorrow during the weekly wellinar and see how it flies.

Re: The Survivors and Choosing Your Companions

leanne heller — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:29:33 -0000

On that last note, after reading your post Big Box Stores as Shelter from the Living Dead, I went to bed & dreamed that my husband and I were in a car, fleeing from zombies. Then, at one point, he told me to get out of the car, because he had become infected, and didn't want to eat my brains.

So, I'll pose a counter-question to your next topic: If you've been infected, and your friend is about to shoot you, is it kosher to attack them eat their brains?

I'm watching The Bad Seed as I type this, so tonight I'll probably dream about demonically possessed zombies. Something to look forward to, terrific. :-P

Re: http://flowercast.net/2008/08/16/big-box-stores-as-shelter-from-the-living-dead/

flowersjustin — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:52:22 -0000

Leanne,

Great points. As far as the back up generators - I don't think that they regularly do, because I have read about or seen where long term power outages are a big problem for grocery stores. Although I imagine some of the bigger ones might. But, back up generators only last as long as your supply of gasoline.

The apartment building is not a great idea, unfortunately. For reference you can check out my post on high-rises which is a similar concept: Urban Zombies and High Rises.

The basic idea is that a tall building is like a can. If you're in one end of the can, and the other end is open - you're in a trap. It makes you vulnerable to attacks from all angles, makes escape nearly impossible, and then of course there's the problem with tall buildings and fires. And, you're spot on about the stairways being death traps.

The ocean is a great idea. Don't forget to stock up on supplies, fuel, and fishing supplies - and remember that zombies can live under water, and occasionally float!!

Thanks for the comment,
Justin

Re: http://flowercast.net/2008/08/16/big-box-stores-as-shelter-from-the-living-dead/

Dana — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:39:11 -0000

In my opinion, I think the only logical place for survival would be a well-stocked, underground bomb shelter in the country. Yes, you'd have to live without sunlight and fresh air for months, even years, but if you planned ahead and rationed the food, you could survive. Perhaps, if you had time to prepare, you could put a periscope in your shelter that would allow you to look around up top and come up every now and again.

I, for one, would avoid the big box stores. Any place that might attract a lot of people would be just as scary as the zombies. Eventually, people start to freak out and you either get "Lord of the Flies" or crazy evangelicals such as in Marcia Gay Harden "The Mist" - (brilliant performance, btw).

I'd much rather face my fate outsmarting and hiding from zombies by myself or with a small group than have to deal with a bunch of freaked out crazies proclaiming that the attack was God's will, or even worse, proclaiming themselves as gods.

Re: http://flowercast.net/2008/08/16/big-box-stores-as-shelter-from-the-living-dead/

leanne heller — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:28:14 -0000

Hm. I never thought of food being the cause of death, rather than a must-have for a shelter. Do regular grocery stores have back up generators, in case of power outages?

What about an apartment building instead of a series of houses, built on the same kind of pier-system that you mentioned in your previous post? That's pretty high off the ground and you'd have a much easier time trying to convince someone to actually build this - for instance, imagine trying to convince your current neighbors that they need to elevate their homes, and could they also please give you open access, just in case of zombies?

Of course, with an apartment building there's the drawback that (in order to restock) you have to go into either creepy stairwells or the elevator, which is a small metal deathtrap, really. All in all, I think I'd prefer the ocean, although that definitely limits the amount of supplies, and could end in accidental death without experienced sailors.

Who would have thought that this was so complicated? Good grief. :-P

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

jmoes — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:45:36 -0000

well you do know that cosco has the same consept as walmart but the front doors are all metal lift doors like storages and there imployee do only have handles from the inside so no one could break in.

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

flowersjustin — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:20:49 -0000

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

jmoes — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:41:21 -0000

well you know how walmart has those big shelves
put them over the auto doors and you can also lock the auto doors so no one can get in.
and all of the employee doors only have handles from the inside.
and most soups and things dont run out for a few years so it would last a long time. And if your smart drive down to a near by fan and get animals that arnt zombies and take them with you because they will mate and make food you can eat so you can last longer.

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

flowersjustin — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:52:20 -0000

Jacob,

That's pretty smart, and it's what a lot of people would do. But, because of the problems of multiple entrances (and trying to maintain their stability), rotting food, marauding theives and animals, and the strange draw that shopping centers invariably have on zombies, I would still suggest stocking up on supplies ahead of time and finding a smaller place to stay that is off the ground.

Thanks for the question Jacob.

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

jmoes — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:06:10 -0000

what about like a walmart or something as a shelter thy have food and supplies to last you a long time

and plus they have hunting gear and weapons
-guns
-knives
-and ect.

Re: Tartar Dodgely, Private Eye - Scene 1

flowersjustin — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:55:09 -0000

Thanks, Suzi.

The rest is coming every Saturday morning. It's already been posted
with post dates, so even if I die, they'll still post... Hehe.

Hope you enjoy it,

Re: Tartar Dodgely, Private Eye - Scene 1

Suzi — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:25:24 -0000

Looks promising!

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

Chelsie — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:44:31 -0000

Okay, so, I always read about people, constantely talking about "how to survive a zombie attack", and I always ask myself, and anyone I am currently talking to on AIM, the phone, etc, (haha) how people surmise that eventually there will be an army of the living dead.

In Dawn of the Dead, they use "proof" of a priest saying, "When Hell is full, the dead will walk the earth." and whether you're a believer of the Bible or not, it says nothing of the sort. in "The Book of Revelations" it says nothing of zombies, only the pleagues, etc.

I've read on zombie spoof sites, and have conversation with people, about how they "think" zombie storys have "came about", and most people have agreed with this theory that I've read multiple times..

Back in like, well, some long ass time ago.. and this is no joke.
People use to "use magic" and make people "die" and then "bring them back to life". Also, back when they didn't have high tecnology, and they weren't able to tell if a person was actually dead when burried them, and a lot of the times people wouldnt be, and would awake in they're coffin of doom and would tripp out and claw at their casket trying to get out.. and when people would see this, they'd assume "oh shit! zombies!"

and I just ask, because I'm HORRIFIED of zombies.. like, if there's a phobia name for "fear of zombies" I have it.. I can't even look outside at night 'cause I'm too afraid. =(

so what makes people "have proof" of zombies?
other than people using "voodoo", because that's all I've ever came across.

Re: JibJab

Suzi — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:53:26 -0000

Pretty fly for a white guy!
JibJab rocks, always has...

Re: Shelter from the Living Dead

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Re: Dana’s iPhone + Toilet Incident

scott — Tue, 27 May 2008 15:22:36 -0000

hella job sir - its amazing what a little surgery will do

Re: Lessons by Flowercast

Dana — Thu, 22 May 2008 22:45:56 -0000

Great mix of graphics. This was very inventive and humorous!